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The G uses a fibreglass voice coil former, the G12T uses a Kapton plastic former. Like I mean I have heard G12T's that were simply magic and others I couldn't bear to be in the same room with. From the frequency responses I took, they could almost be the same speaker In fact, they sound very similar to my G reissues China or did the earlier G12Ts sound different than the more modern ones? Don't get me wrong, I like the modern "scooped" sound of the G12T when it's used with the right amp and in the right context, but I would like to get a better idea of why my G12Ts don't have that characteristic "scoop" that they're famous for.

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Perhaps as my Gs break in more they'll change, but I can't see them getting any "middier" because then they'd be less like my G12Ms and more like a pre-Rola era Greenback That's what gives the G12T its 10W higher power rating - fibreglass being a little more "vintagey" than Kapton, but Kapton handling high power and gain a little better. My suspicion is that when the G12T first came out in '85 it was essentially a slightly higher-powered "reissue" of the G, perhaps because the G12M met with a less than enthusiastic reception and the G was considered excellent in a 4x My G12Ms have cones which, although made of a different pulp and treated differently than s, were possibly stamped with the same tool.

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A few years ago I bought a used B cab with all the original speakers to go with my other B cab also used but from a music store's rental department so it was newish around if I remember. Also, after '86 the G12T and G12M cones were stamped with the same tool, so that could have contributed to their similarity at the time. Don't get me wrong, I like the modern "scooped" sound of the G12T when it's used with the right amp and in the right context, but I would like to get a better idea of why my G12Ts don't have that characteristic "scoop" that they're famous for. Like I mean I have heard G12T's that were simply magic and others I couldn't bear to be in the same room with. They were taken on different scales, so I stretched and matched my frequency response the best I could should be a reasonably fair comparison. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Of course, it could be the fact that the G12Ts are over 20 years old and the Gs just broken in, but my Greenbacks are over 20 years old as well. Overlaid in black is the frequency response of one of my old G12Ts taken the same way.

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My G12Ms have cones which, although made of a different pulp and treated differently than s, were possibly stamped with the same tool. To throw possible intrigue into the story, maybe the workers who were about to loose their jobs in the UK made sure that the Chinese stuff would not be the same? The G uses a fibreglass voice coil former, the G12T uses a Kapton plastic former. From the frequency responses I took, they could almost be the same speaker The G, G12T and G12M speakers all share most of the same specs - same magnet, voice coil, etc.

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